For stopping power, the Super 5 1.1 L/TL/GTL braking system includes Discs at the front and Drums at the rear. That’s what I recall. Though it wasn’t very successful, AMC/Renault continued to market it with ongoing improvements and a new five-door model into the 1980s. At the time at least, it went against the orthodoxy of using a smaller capacity engine to achieve the same goal, (Renault were already offering the Cinq with engines of 845, 956 or 1108 cc capacity), so while the headline economy figures for the GTL were more impressive than the smaller engined versions, the gains really had to be offset against the higher purchase price and the fact that its greater swept volume would place it into a higher taxation band in several European markets. Tom MacCahill described it as “A little Frenchman under the floor.” Driven To Write was founded by a group of writers frustrated with the one-dimensional nature of much of today’s motor journalism. On reliability, about one big repair/year: brake proportioning valve, master cylinder, voltage regulator, radiator, which was about the same as most of my 60s/70s Detroit iron that preceded it, and vastly better than the POS Zephyr’s monthly trips to the shop. Hello Hex: thanks for that. In their perverse Gallic way, Renault never offered an alternative to the 16’s column shift, but saw fit in the 5’s case to pander to Northern Europe’s preference for a lever on the floor. I still am. Someday I’ll get the coolest little car ever. As I have probably mentioned before, I had an R5, an 80, bought new. I've been driving it up and down the driveway on occasion for exercise and have decided I like it - it's a good drive with it's light steering, soft suspension and flexible engine, and this one is … Fun to drive. Renault 5 (Epoque IV) La Renault 5 (1972-1985) était la voiture la plus populaire de la France pendant dix ans. So they didn’t scrape when cornering! The car got those famous shield bumpers to protect it in Parisian traffic and the original design had high placed taillights à la Volvo V70 estate. The original photographs were by Douglas Land-Windermere. But in the popular memory of Americans, it was just another weird little French car that showed certain weaknesses as it aged. V témže roce ale tým Renault Sport opustil Mistrovství světa, protože vozy nedokázaly konkurovat ostatním speciálům na nezpevněném povrchu. the car is over 25 years old and is very easy to import or export to pretty much any country including the united states of america. The problem was that I had a small boat and would not have been able to tow it with an R5. I always thought the best looking R5 was the GTL precisely because it had the side strakes! Touch the “Copy URL” icon. The R30 never sold well – especially outside France – because it was a luxury car with zero refinement: comfortable but dynamically deficient, bare-bones even with the full options list… A Renault ’70s Ultimate Deadly Sin (shared with the R14). I’m not sure an AMC connection would have helped sales of the 5 in the US. What did it in was an alarming propensity to rust. All Rights Reserved. As part of the 1979 specification review 5TL tyre width was reduced from 145 to 135 to reduce steering effort. Probably, worse, in different ways, on core mechanical systems. I do remember that when Honda first started selling cars, many of the dealers were Honda motorcycle dealers with decent reputations while some dealers added Honda to well established car brands. Copyright 2011 - 2020 Curbside Classics. ( Log Out /  The officially sanctioned answer to the heavy steering was to increase front tyre pressures from 24psi to 27psi. It´s the 2CV you see going about, if you see anything like this at all. 4. Boué had wanted the taillights to go all the way up from the bumper into the C-pillar, in the fashion of the much later Fiat Punto and Volvo 850 Estate / Wagon, but the lights remained at a more conven… Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Renault had high hopes for its R5 in the US. Boas pessoal do aço! 2. The ride was very supple but the car began to rust in less than 2 years ibeing subjected to Buffalo winters…He ended up trading it in a a very conventional and reliable Mazda GLC….I remember the local dealer franchise here in Buffalo sold Renault along with Lincoln Mercury. It brought a slight reduction in effort with no obvious detriment to traction or roadholding. Hello clever commenters: I would like to ask again about how to embed an image in a comment. A window will pop up giving you a number of different options. 4 familiar gtl kat (f407) sin plomo 91 caja de cambios 5 velocidades. Soft, plush, typically French seats, compliant suspension, excellent ride quality that rivaled (or bettered) some larger cars. Stay safe everybody. This is the reason for the R4’s (and thus the R5’s) peculiar engine layout, which apes the Traction Avant and DS. See how many cars of any make and model are left on Britain's roads. Here’s the Supercinq with a light facelift: I’m not doing well today…Ingvar doesn’t like my Renault 11 facelift either! One curiosity of the GTL (and suggestive of its intended city role) was that the protective side strakes (which matched the bumpers) were more or less unique to the model, and not fitted to the more upmarket or performance variants. I crave an R5. Arches and sills are all clean … Here’s a short contemporary road test from Thames TV. And talk about spacious, I once brought home a full size dishwasher-in the box-with the hatch closed. I’m irrationally fascinated by the mundane and everyday. I always liked the way that Renault sprayed the formerly chromed bumpers on the 4 and changed the colour of the grille to match the side cladding. Seats were more comfortable too. You can see where they were coming from with the first version of the Kangoo. Your email address will not be published. With a headwind, it would top out at 55. Anyone know? My reason is I am running another blog for teaching and I need inexperienced students to be able to put images in their comments. ‘the gains really had to be offset against the higher purchase price and the fact that its greater swept volume would place it into a higher taxation band in several European markets.’. Driveability with the R5 was vastly better than the always unhappy Escort. I always envied the later interiors over our GTL’s rather drab black cabin (with added smoke damage…). I barely remember the marketing for these. We hope you agree. Lol, the exact transition I made, from the 80 LeCar to an 85 GLC. I know rather more than probably most about the origin of that clutch—it was Jack Rabinow’s invention—but I know very little about its application by Renault. The R5 is regarded as being the first of the Super Mini’s, it was available as a hotter 5LS, which became the 5TS and then the super cool 5 Alpine and Alpine Turbo. Its status was restored in December 1982 when it was upgraded with a five speed gearbox, the TL had to wait until the run-out ’84MY for this. The design process of the Renault 4 was much like that of the 2CV. Several of my college friends had this car. I miss that kind of design. Renault 5 GTL 1984 : 23.5 Millions | Renault 5 1984 : 1 Millions | Renault 5 1979 : 1 Millions | Renault R 5 GTL 1983 : 1 Millions | Renault R 5 1984 : | Re As a former owner, I can certainly say this was probably my least forgettable car. The deep rouge paintwork boasts a remarkable polished shine thanks to the Supergloss factory treatment with a pleasing uniform finish. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.qTgkHynPE6pwcyVJNtU3GwHaE8%26pid%3DApi&f=1. They said that at the end of the test, “… it looked and drove as if it had been through 40,000 hard miles.” Their long-term Honda Civic held up much better. The floor change linkage was a mechanical engineer’s nightmare task, and completely unnecessary. Or, honestly, though I love a car with its native details, a LeCar is so camp, splashy and fun, I’d love one of them just as much. Statement “you shouldn’t give up safety for miles per gallon”. Of course, Hondas of the era were notorious rusters as well. The Renault 14 is a compact car produced by the French manufacturer Renault between 1976 and 1983. Still The World's Least Influential Motoring Site. The 2nd generation (Super5, 1985-1996) was also quite popular and offered interesting variants. Powered by a detuned version of the 5 TS’ 1289 cc engine, it was a low-revving, relatively unstressed power unit, aimed at reducing fuel consumption – in a rudimentary manner perhaps, predating BMW’s more elaborate attempts at achieving a similar goal with their ETA engine programme the following decade. How many horsepower (hp) does a 1980 Renault 5 GTL - TL have? I would also like to see a photo of your 4GTL, if you might oblige. Sometimes I would stop too close to an intersection and couldn’t see the traffic light through the windshield, so I would look through the open sunroof. A great example of a First Generation R5 in original white paint and original side decals. I showed up, told the (amazed that I didn’t want a Corolla) salesman I’m interested, he got a plate, took my license information, and off we went. He showed me the invoice, and it said, “Glue window latch. Imgur offers you different links to your uploaded photo, but only one option works to embed the photo directly in your post. A spare tire under the hood always reminds me of the earlier pre-Impreza Subarus. Lets go for a ride! The first R5 had the 850cc R4 engine complete with umbrella gear lever from the R4 and the more mature 1100 cc engine from the Renault 6 with 4 on the floor. The Renault 5 was introduced in January 1972 as Renault's first supermini, and in direct competition of the Fiat 127. 1. The Ronis and Neimann door locks wore out in a couple of years, and could be opened easily with a penknife or nail file. Later – post ’81 – cars had a lower geared steering rack which dulled the steering’s responsiveness and crosswinds controllability. For the Renaults with their gearbox in front of the engine it was a logical and straightforward solution. The dashboard mounted ‘umbrella handle’ gearshift was a characteristic feature of cheap cars. At one point he had it to the dealer, and one item to be taken care of was that a rear window latch had come unglued from the glass. Vybírejte z 109 inzerátů. الكهرباء معاودة الباتري جديدة. So my (probably wrong) conclusion is that the dealers and the reputation of French cars in general is what kept these cars from “taking off”. The Kangoo doesn’t ride as well as the older car but on the debit side it needs to be pushed quite hard through corners to generate R4 levels of body roll. AMC took over the marketing of the R5 in the USA for 1977 and pushed it hard as the “Le Car”. What might have happened if they would have pushed this car when the merger with AMC went down? The Renault 5 is definitely worthy of attention, but I’m transfixed by the photo above. 4 and 6 drivers were well used to the dash change. 4. It may cost several thousand per year in maintenance costs, but as long as it doesn’t flat stop running, it is an okay car. But the timing of the R5 was propitious, coming on the heels of the first energy crisis, which really spurred interest in small FWD hatchbacks. Se vende renault 5 gtl 1.1 año 1982, se vende con mucha pena por no poder mantener tantos vehiculos. this french built car is currently registered in the province quebec (canada). Make it orange or Kermit green and naturally, it must have le sunroof. Our aim is to have a distinctive voice and to publish a diversity of writing you won’t find anywhere else. DS and Peugeot 204/304, 404, 504 L were good company for an R16. ***if you are a buyer outside canada . The R30 would have been far too expensive for its own good in the U.S. in the mid/late ’70s. Nothing can go wrong. 1976 Renault 5 GTL: source The text first appeared under the headline “Another New Renault” in The Amman Valley Chronicle and East Carmarthen News, June 5, 1976. The engineers eventually came up with this, which with a lot of finessing by the stylists became the Renault 4 we’re all familiar with. Everything else was built to make it as light and flimsy as possible. In France at least horsepower and final drive ratio were also taken into account when deciding tax bands, which is how the GTL models, with their low power outputs and long gearing, managed to remain in the same or lower tax bands than their regular counterparts. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. It has only 43000miles on the clock! Or was it just quirky in the French manner and to the French degree, thus making incompatibility with non-French owner/drivers? Manual choke, no power steering, manual windows,a true retro classic. More than likely, I am just suffering from CRS. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Thanks Daniel. The “Le Car” name was not used on US-bound R5s in the first year, at least, although that’s certainly how most American remember it, if at all. For a car which was something of an outlier in a broad range, the 5 GTL has appeared on several occasions on the pages of Driven to Write. The long gearing (at 20mph/1,000rpm fourth is the same as most modern small cars’ fifth) means long distance cruising is a relative breeze. If you would care to post a photo I for one would love to see it. I’m sure there’s a correct technical term for “Touch and hold” on a touch-screen device. We never really got the hang of carmaking over here. Right-click on the image. Aye, there’s the rub. Renault had high hopes for its R5 in the US. As a friend of mine used to joke, we could just drive it around to watch the screws back out of their holes. A Vega I had before it and an S-10 I suffered after it were in the same league, reliability-wise. It seems they built this one to last. 1.1K likes. Renault MAXI 5 Turbo. Top speed on the highway depended on which way the wind was blowing. Easily mastered, mechanically simple, and ideally positioned for those who drive with both hands on the steering wheel. only Gawd knows how sizzling hot these cars ran. I just don’t recall seeing them at Firkins Motors in my teenage years, and I was in love with the small hatches. Renault 5 GTL - 1984 by Filippo 4 Renault 5 GTL - 1984 by Filippo 6 2 This site uses cookies to improve your experience and to help show ads that are more relevant to your interests. It even operated by push-button! Boué styled the R5 in his spare time and based the car on the Renault 4 underpinnings. It’s clear that the Kangoo manages to capture the essential concept of the R4 without having to pastiche any of its details, although the interior is very much a 1.5 scale Twingo replica. They liked the increased refinement from the larger engine and the higher gearing. Over a 12 year production life, European 5s changed little externally from the Boué original: wheels, reversing lights, trim signifiers and door count apart, the only visible revisions were separation of the three door’s lock and push button, and for ’83MY a revised front bumper with a discreet (but not discrete) chin spoiler. A window will pop up giving you s number of different “Share to” options. The first year in the US with rectangular headlights. Search results for 'renault 5'. In high school, around 1987 or so, a friend had a LeCar and it seemed so fragile. Yet the result is pleasing, sensible and with enough quirkiness to make it human. The R5/Le Car had a lot of redeeming qualities, but with tough competition from the Civic and the Rabbit, the R5 never really made it big here for Renault either, although certainly more so than anything since the Dauphine. It was, if memory serves, a decently reliable car too, although age, mileage (and misuse) did lead to a few running repairs, including to the gear linkage (a rather convoluted device). The instructions for each are slightly different, as you can see from the above. Always thought the thing rode way better than a car that size should, much softer than the Ford. Je la possède depuis Fevrier 2014 et elle totalisait 88000 kms d'origine. Rather than design a new windshield header trim for the US market, Renault just left the existing header in place, with a big plastic plug screwed into the hole that would have provided access to the antenna. LHD model imported from Spain this year the chassis is solid and straight with zero rust. How you find the correct link depends on the device you’re using. Even today, it’s one of the few cars from its era that I crave. Paste that URL into your post. Would your typical AMC buyer even consider a rebranded R5 as an option for replacing their Hornet or Gremlin? Finance available in all major banks, delivering can be done to many countries, For view and test drive, call or whats app shalom on 0670042096/0604834419. The front indicators wrapping around the corners into the wings so they didn’t align with the edges of the headlamps always looked a little odd too. “Touch and hold” on the image for a couple of seconds. Renault were unbelievebly successfull with their R4, the world’s first mass produced 5-door hatchback. This delightful and super chic Renault 5 is finished in factory optional Grenada Metallic (code 761). The R5 had a much more mature feel , the R4 was basically an improved 2CV. 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